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adi&co. · #1 01-15-2018, 03:15 PM

I'm struggling with clusters. I'm trying to mimic some of the gorgeous ones I see the babes create in order to learn how it's done (I learn from mimicking), but I'm struggling! Mine never look quite how I want them too.

So, a question to all you master clusterers, any pro tips on how it's how it's done??

Saar · #2 01-15-2018, 03:24 PM

Have you tried clustering with a template?

I started to learn how to cluster using Cindy's templates. I started by just recplacing the flower spots with flowers and see what I liked/didn't like. When I got the hang of that I started adding more elements than there were element/flower spots provided in the template.

adi&co. · #3 01-15-2018, 03:49 PM

No I haven't! I don't have any recent templates from anyone. I might have to try that. I struggle with scrapping with templates as I have a very specific style and it's not like the templates in the store at all. Thanks for the idea!

jacinda · #4 01-15-2018, 03:51 PM

I learnt to cluster using Cindy's templates too.

Saar · #5 01-15-2018, 04:10 PM

There are a few templates in the free samples section of the store.
https://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/s...ction=0&page=1

Maybe that's an easy way to just give it a try before buying templates that may not fit your style?
You can always delete the layers/element/photo spots you don't like.

SeattleSheri · #6 01-15-2018, 04:16 PM

I would just experiment with adding a bunch of elements to your canvas and moving them around. I started clustering/shadowing before templates were as popular as they are now. There are a couple of useful shadow and layering tutorials too.

https://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/t...ory/shadowing/
https://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/t...gory/layering/

Feel free to ask more questions!

adi&co. · #7 01-15-2018, 04:41 PM

Thanks ladies!

ChristineF · #8 01-15-2018, 05:20 PM

I normally try to put the "flat" elements/flowers under and then build in volume. I second (or fourth) the other girls here. Try using a template to see how you do, then just play around a bit. Practice makes perfect

I use these settings for mine.

tanyiadeskins · #9 01-15-2018, 05:27 PM

I am certainly no expert or a babe but I have trouble with clustering without a template. Download one of the free samples in the store to help you. I may add more or sometimes take away from the template but they help me see what sort of sized volume of things look best in an area...if that makes sense.

bexy · #10 01-15-2018, 05:29 PM

I usually start in groups of 3. So I'll do 3 main clusters and then if I think the page could use more filling in I'll add more. But a lot of the time I'm happy with 3 - make them as big or small as you like!!

jacinda · #11 01-15-2018, 06:22 PM

If there is a scrapper whose clustering skills you aspire to, lift their clusters to get started with. Even if it's just one cluster from their page. Mimic it on your own page to get the feel of how it works.

Neverland Scraps · #12 01-15-2018, 06:24 PM

following because I don't care for my clusters and would love to learn to cluster better! <3

Neverland Scraps · #13 01-15-2018, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleSheri

I would just experiment with adding a bunch of elements to your canvas and moving them around. I started clustering/shadowing before templates were as popular as they are now. There are a couple of useful shadow and layering tutorials too.

https://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/t...ory/shadowing/
https://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/t...gory/layering/

Feel free to ask more questions!

Thank you SO much!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by bexy

I usually start in groups of 3. So I'll do 3 main clusters and then if I think the page could use more filling in I'll add more. But a lot of the time I'm happy with 3 - make them as big or small as you like!!

That's how I've been clustering, in groups of threes, but now I'm trying to figure out how to add more in so that's it looks cohesive and flows together beautifully, instead of looking like I threw everything but the kitchen sink on to my layout!

jak · #14 01-15-2018, 06:38 PM

Similar to what others have said... I build layers up with flatter/thinner elements (e.g. drawn flowers) at the bottom through to larger/deeper elements (e.g. more realistic looking flowers) on the top. Shadows help to give depth. I did a tutorial on this (for Photoshop CS5 - it might still give you an idea of how to vary your shadow settings according to the elements you have on your page if you don't use CS5).

Other than that, clustering (for me) is largely a case of moving things around until they 'look right'. Also using lots of elements, using different leaves on top of each other, tucking some elements behind the photo and having others sit in front of it, placing flowers on top of other flowers and not worrying that you might only see a tiny part of the one underneath... and trying to show some balance, i.e. usually more than one cluster on the page with some of the flowers/leaves repeated in each cluster.

Kiana · #15 01-15-2018, 09:17 PM

I just did a combo of trial and error
and
lifting other's clusters, with the kit and all, just so I could "see" how they were putting things together.

nietis · #16 01-15-2018, 10:42 PM

I think others have covered what needed to be said, but I'll add that practice makes perfect. So just keep trying until you get it look right to you. We are, after all, our own worst critique!

tammybean04 · #17 01-16-2018, 12:18 AM

I started with templates and now I go by feel. I love layers so it's easy for me. Now minimal is hard. I'm working on that one.

The girls have all given great advice.

britaneejean · #18 01-16-2018, 01:12 AM

I’m ocd with my clusters and take the most time on them. Some flowers have to be rotated *just* right, others need to peek out *just* right, greenery placed just so, etc. I will say I love templates to use as a guide. I usually add/remove additional elements to them but they’re nice to have as a guide.

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anelia · #19 01-16-2018, 03:38 AM

I'm not a Babe but consider myself OK at clustering and I often do it without templates.

My main trick is to follow the element itself...if a flower/element looks more flat, I add a "thin/shallow" shadow...and when the flower/element requires more volume, I apply a deeper shadow. I usually do those deep shadows on those round/layered flowers which I imagine would cast such a shadow on a paper layout (i have no idea if that's the case because I don't do paper scraps but that's how I imagine it lol)

The secret is to alternate and mix depth of shadows...to add volume and realism.

So, whether I scrap with or without template, I add my own shadows. I always remove the shadows from a template but yes, they might be a good start to get an idea. However, DO try to change depth here and there.

Maybe a few examples would help:

see those round layered flowers with deeper shadows...

Same here - deeper shadows on voluminous flowers; shallow on the flatter objects

For word bits I prefer super thin shadows because I imagine those to be kind of "glued" to the paper

While with the butterflies, I always apply thick deep shadows to add an interesting (to me) depth to the page. With the ribbons, I usually go something in between, then rasterize the shadow (make it a layer) and slightly adjust it with the warp tool, following the ribbon's shape/curl. Hope it makes sense

Really, just looking at pages you like and trying to recreate what you like is the best practice! Just keep on scrapping and have fun -- that's the most important part

YepBrook · #20 01-16-2018, 12:32 PM

I might actually be terrible at clustering... I'm only saying that because I don't really even think about it?

I've never analyzed it, I just do what looks good to me.

Often I just stick flowers and stuff together where the page seems bare and move them around and keep adding more until it looks right. No method to the madness, I just leave it up to visually balancing the page (like, if the page seems to need 'more' on one side, I make it a bigger cluster). Not all of my clusters have a certain number and I don't do everything in 3's. I put flat flowers on top of chunky ones, sometimes if I want to. It's digital, no rules. LOL. I just add stuff until it looks good to me.

danagirl82 · #21 01-17-2018, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anelia

I'm not a Babe but consider myself OK at clustering and I often do it without templates.

My main trick is to follow the element itself...if a flower/element looks more flat, I add a "thin/shallow" shadow...and when the flower/element requires more volume, I apply a deeper shadow. I usually do those deep shadows on those round/layered flowers which I imagine would cast such a shadow on a paper layout (i have no idea if that's the case because I don't do paper scraps but that's how I imagine it lol)

The secret is to alternate and mix depth of shadows...to add volume and realism.

So, whether I scrap with or without template, I add my own shadows. I always remove the shadows from a template but yes, they might be a good start to get an idea. However, DO try to change depth here and there.

Maybe a few examples would help:

see those round layered flowers with deeper shadows...

Same here - deeper shadows on voluminous flowers; shallow on the flatter objects

For word bits I prefer super thin shadows because I imagine those to be kind of "glued" to the paper

While with the butterflies, I always apply thick deep shadows to add an interesting (to me) depth to the page. With the ribbons, I usually go something in between, then rasterize the shadow (make it a layer) and slightly adjust it with the warp tool, following the ribbon's shape/curl. Hope it makes sense

Really, just looking at pages you like and trying to recreate what you like is the best practice! Just keep on scrapping and have fun -- that's the most important part

You are a total cluster goddess. I always love your work!!!!