Interesting.... (politics AGAIN, sorry)

You have to know that The Wall Street Journal was just bought by the same people that own Fox News which is the biggest republican propaganda machine in the country :)
 
Yep. All my instructors have just said that the WSJ is no longer a reliable source of information and should not be used in reports unless it is an older issue before they were bought.
 
Traci Reed said:
Yep. All my instructors have just said that the WSJ is no longer a reliable source of information and should not be used in reports unless it is an older issue before they were bought.
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OMG! LOL! That's hysterical, and I totally didn't know that.
 
the taxpolicycenter one seemed pretty unbiased...i googled the companies they're sponsored by and most are non profit etc.
 
BrodoNY0123 said:
Right, but then if you read the comments on the parade article, that's not the whole truth either.

I'm so sick of this. Nothing is straightforward and honest anymore. Effing politicians.
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I don't pay any attention to the comments. LOL Just the chart and the taxpolicycenter website. :)
 
ooh that's a neat chart. I like how McCain's campaign says there is a tax cut for everyone but the poorest people get back like $319 or less and the richest get back in the 100s of thousands, cause they need it, right?
 
Wow Lynette that really does put things in perspective. Great chart! Really breaks things down for me cause Im slow and a very visual person lOL
 
I dont really know what to believe Fox news is supposedly biased but from my veiws every other news channel thinks Obama walks on water is our savior in the hard times coming. I think its all crap. In my opinion every politician lies and says what needs to be said to get into office. I dont trust any politician anymore. And from what that article says it doesnt seem like any of those tax credits would benefit my family anyhow. We do not buy new cars, we do not pay child support or child care, we own our own home with no mortgage...Ive read alot on Mccain and some on Obama and agree on alot of things Mccain says but still say I just do not trust politicians.
 
I just haven't seen an article or chart yet, that addresses what happens when Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010. At this point, that's my main source of confusion.
 
one of Lynette's articles says that both candidates propose to leave them as they are..I think. Re-up them.
 
From this one: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411759

A. Proposed Extensions of the 2001 and 2003 Tax Acts
Both Senator McCain and Senator Obama would extend most provisions of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts (EGTRRA and JGTRRA), which are scheduled to expire after 2010. Under current law, the 10 percent income tax bracket will disappear in 2011 and the 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent brackets will increase to 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent, respectively. Senator McCain would extend the statutory rate schedule established by EGTRRA and JGTRRA. Senator Obama would extend the 10, 15, 25, and 28 percent tax rates but restore the 36 and 39.6 percent rates imposed on the highest income taxpayers.
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ok here is what the tax liability table breaks down last year while it seems like mccain would be giving alot back it is still a heck of alot that the top bracket incomes pay in if you look at the total they pay in taxes compared to lower incomes. I just wonder how many people given that they work to earn their money and were able to earn in those top brackets would want to pay in that much.

ETA:forgot the link

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/article/0,,id=164272,00.html
 
I get that they earn more so they would get a larger dollar amount with the same percentage. My father is a millionaire many times over. We, on the other hand have been struggling for 5 years in an economy that's not for "the little guy" we work our butts off, go to school to better our lives, etc. There were many months in there where we couldn't make ends meet even though we were both working 80+ hours a week.

(IN MOST CASES) Wealth is no longer a measure of how hard you work, but rather, who you know, what family you were born into or the breaks you've had in life. So no, I don't think it's fair to exponentially lower the higher class' taxes and only give a $300 tax break to those of us who are working our asses off but weren't born into wealth, etc.

No, increasing taxes on the wealthy isn't fair either but most of these big companies are cheating their way around taxes with offshore accounts and dirty dealings anyway so I don't really care.

I walk a very fine line politically between conservative democrat and liberal republican, I'm not for or against either side, but I am for truth and knowledge and having the facts straight on the dirty dealings of both parties.
 
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Actually I think it's fair to say that nearly all "journalistic" mediums are no longer objective. Honestly. It's really sad. I can't rely on ANY news outlet for unbiased, objective reporting anymore.
 
mccain isn't giving the wealthy a tax break, he's just not raising their taxes. how is that a tax break? my dad is considered wealthy too and by what we claim every year- we are on the line. if obama comes in and raises my taxes, there are gonna be words. i have bills to pay, mortgages to make, i'm not running around with bookoo bucks burning a hole in my pockets, but lemme tell you...obama better keep his grubby hands off of my livelihood!
 
scarletsierra said:
Actually I think it's fair to say that nearly all "journalistic" mediums are no longer objective. Honestly. It's really sad. I can't rely on ANY news outlet for unbiased, objective reporting anymore.
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This is the truth and why I do my own research. I NEVER watch the news or political stations and crap..they're all pushing their own agenda, whether it be conservative or liberal.
 
scarletsierra said:
Actually I think it's fair to say that nearly all "journalistic" mediums are no longer objective. Honestly. It's really sad. I can't rely on ANY news outlet for unbiased, objective reporting anymore.
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true dat! i am very conservative and even fox news annoys me. i want unbiased reporting too!
 
Uh, Lizzy, did you see this?

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I do believe that's a higher tax break for the wealthy than anyone else.
 
ah no worries, Lizzy and I go back and forth about this all the time, I still :wub: her.... (even though she's wrong...LMAO j/k)
 
Lizzy unless you make 600 thou + a year, in which case can I move in with you?, I think you're ok from Obama's "grubby" hands.
 
I do agree with that...I just wanted to point out that those who make those higher incomes with a larger decrease are still paying a heck of alot.
 
Traci Reed said:
That is the biggest load of bull. YES Hollywood tends to be liberal, but that's not true with normal news media outlets

http://makethemaccountable.com/myth/LiberalMedia.htm
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i am not even considering hollywood in my analysis, thats a whole 'nother can of worms. if you are blind that 80-90% of the media is controlled by liberals, your blind. how is it that all of the debate moderators in this campaign were outwardly liberal. everyone except elizabeth on 'the view' are extreme liberals. katie couric (supposed to be unbiased is clearly not!), nbc is owned by GE who is highly liberal, they replaced all their news anchors with all liberals, 85% of newpapers support liberal propaganda. i could go on. that's not even a tip of the iceberg.

and yes, traci and i love eachother :wub: , we just have 'words' when it comes to politics. :D
 
Most of the "news" outlets you just pointed to are "opinion" outlets, not news outlets :P

Rush Limbaugh, the biggest liar in the HISTORY OF THE MEDIA is believed by some people like he's God when in fact he has a track record of spouting falsehoods and outright lies.

This is why I don't watch the news, I don't read the newspapers...all of this political talk on all sides is just opinion, not fact. I look at facts, personally :P

And Jessica, I wasn't attacking you at all, sorry if it came off that way. You have every right to vote for McCain or write in Bill Cosby if you want, just like I do..lol

I'm thinking of writing in Pauly Shore :wub:
 
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