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scrapperjade 07-07-2009 03:26 PM

Well who knew! I've been uploading at 500x500.... sorry to make everyone squint, lol!!

momtutu 07-07-2009 06:18 PM

Well shoot - I'm very confused now!!! I've never noticed what percentage it saves at. I just save with enough pixels that it doesn't go above 150. Sometimes it's around 600x600, sometimes more, sometimes less. So, what percentage should I go with so that my lo's aren't blurry? I have noticed that my lo's seem blurry online and I'll bet that's what's causing it - ARGHHHH!! Can someone just talk me through the websaving process? Especially the optimize part.

I usually first change the image size to 72 dpi in photoshop elements 7. After that, the lo usually looks really, really small on my workspace. I then go to "save for web" and change the format from gif to jpg and fiddle around with the size until the total file size is under 150 so it doesn't exceed what the site allows (usually ending up between 550 x 550 and 650 x 650).

isaacsmom 07-07-2009 07:39 PM

I upload at 600 x 600 because I thought that is what you were supposed to... Guess I never really thought about it!

I use PSE 5 and just do the save for web - then change the size to 600 x 600 and adjust the quality until the size of the file is just under 150. I don't think my images are too blurry. Hope that helps! :)

ditzyscrap 07-07-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by momtutu (Post 484407)
Well shoot - I'm very confused now!!! I've never noticed what percentage it saves at. I just save with enough pixels that it doesn't go above 150. Sometimes it's around 600x600, sometimes more, sometimes less. So, what percentage should I go with so that my lo's aren't blurry? I have noticed that my lo's seem blurry online and I'll bet that's what's causing it - ARGHHHH!! Can someone just talk me through the websaving process? Especially the optimize part.

I usually first change the image size to 72 dpi in photoshop elements 7. After that, the lo usually looks really, really small on my workspace. I then go to "save for web" and change the format from gif to jpg and fiddle around with the size until the total file size is under 150 so it doesn't exceed what the site allows (usually ending up between 550 x 550 and 650 x 650).

Kelli, you're doing an extra step by changing the image size to 72 dpi before going into "save for web" - that will change it automatically for you.

ColleenSwerb 07-07-2009 08:03 PM

I follow this tut from Jessica Sprague
http://spraguelab.squarespace.com/bl...r-the-web.html

momtutu 07-07-2009 08:53 PM

On that Jessica Sprague site, she changes the file to 72dpi first also. But Bree, you are saying that when you "save for web", it will automatically change it to 72?

ditzyscrap 07-07-2009 08:54 PM

Yep, it's what the "save for web" feature does first and foremost...changes to 72 dpi. :)

ColleenSwerb 07-07-2009 09:03 PM

That's actually an updated version of the one that I follow. Lemme go run the action I have and see what order it does things......

ColleenSwerb 07-07-2009 09:11 PM

Huh. Well my action does change it to 72 dpi first. Oh well. LOL!

momtutu 07-07-2009 09:30 PM

You have a specific action that saves for web? huh...cool! So, I do or I don't need to change to 72 dpi first?

ditzyscrap 07-07-2009 09:32 PM

You don't, Kelli. Just go "save for web" (it may give you a warning about the size, you can just click through that) and then in there change the size to 600x600 and optimize to file size, changing from GIF to JPG. HTH!

lltheo 07-07-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by scrappurple (Post 484019)
600x600 PLUS unsharpen ... it makes a HUGE difference!!

Can I be uninformed and just ask....What does "unsharpen" do and how do you get it to "unsharpen?" Is it a tool in PS or PSE??

I'm so confused!

SmallMoments 07-07-2009 09:56 PM

It won't let me do anything over 400x400. what am I doing wrong?

amandabarugh 07-07-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by melmos75 (Post 483903)
600x 600 cuz size DOES matter.

LMAO!

I do 600, as well.

ColleenSwerb 07-07-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lltheo (Post 484554)
Can I be uninformed and just ask....What does "unsharpen" do and how do you get it to "unsharpen?" Is it a tool in PS or PSE??

I'm so confused!

Unsharpen is a filter tool, but it actually DOES sharpen. I forget why they call it unsharpen instead.

I have CS2 so I do filter>sharpen>unsharp mask
I use the all around general good time settings of 85%, radius 1, threshold 4.

tracey 07-08-2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ZaCola3 (Post 484024)
500X500 because I like the way it looks for me.

Ditto

tracey 07-08-2009 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmallMoments (Post 484581)
It won't let me do anything over 400x400. what am I doing wrong?

Which program are you using Kristin?

rachaelsscraps 07-08-2009 07:35 AM

Oh no- I've been doing 500x500, even for my shop previews- I'll be changing that to 600x600 though! lol! :p

livelys 07-08-2009 08:55 AM

I hadn't realised how much I was winging it - like Kelli, I was just reducing sizes until under the 150kb limit and had no clue about (un)sharpening etc.

I'm going to have to reread this thread for the next pics I plan to upload!

I have a feeling I'm only using Photoshop at about 15% of its potential - may be I should dig out the instruction manual...

ColleenSwerb 07-08-2009 09:15 AM

Sara, don't feel bad! I don't think anyone ever gets to a point where they know 100% of photoshop, lol. I just happened across a similar topic many moons ago over at DST, and have been doing it Jessica's way ever since.

lltheo 07-08-2009 09:26 AM

Okay, now I'm on a mission to get the best results possible for viewing pleasure!!! :thumbup:

Until I read a post from Dani on her CT board, I was just shrinking to 72 dpi and not paying attention to the size. And, I always optimized to file size of 100.

This morning, {thanks to you guys} I tried uploading both ways. I tried shrinking to 72, resizing to 600x600, optimizing to file size 150 and unsharp masking (with Col's 85%, 4, and 1).

Here's the difference:

OLD Way:
https://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com...2009-_web_.jpg

New Way:
https://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com...p-mask_-15.jpg

I can totally see the difference in clarity.

What do you guys think??

Woooohoooooo! I love school!

ColleenSwerb 07-08-2009 09:29 AM

Yup! Way better!! Unsharp mask is awesoooooooooooooooome, lol.

momtutu 07-08-2009 08:51 PM

Ok, when do you do the unsharp mask? Before you do the "save for web" or after? If you do it after, then you've already saved it for web and you have to reopen it and resave it right?

ColleenSwerb 07-08-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momtutu (Post 485268)
Ok, when do you do the unsharp mask? Before you do the "save for web" or after? If you do it after, then you've already saved it for web and you have to reopen it and resave it right?

You do it as the last step before "save for web".

lizzyfizzy 07-08-2009 09:13 PM

total difference!!!! i love unsharp mask!!!

BrattyMeg 07-08-2009 09:39 PM

Here's an action I made to resize 600x600 (I THINK..if it's 500x500 lemme know and I'll upload my other one) and use the unsharp mask. I use it all the time. I'm lazy so if it's something that is repetitive I'll make an action to make it easier. It will flatten all your layers too when you run it :)

http://www.4shared.com/file/67643701...eSharpen2.html

*Kelly* 07-08-2009 09:58 PM

Thank you for the action Meg..

I was saving 500x500.. but recently changed to 600x600. I must be doing something wrong with the unsharp mask because it seems pixelated to me when I unsharp then save for web. I dunno.. I def see a difference in the above LO. I guess I'll play around.

lovely1m 07-08-2009 10:50 PM

I do 600x600, but because I love lots of layers, sometimes its too big for the sites and then I go down until it will upload like on my Love to Shop LO today. Never thought of doing an unsharpen on it. Interesting.

suze 07-08-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrodoNY0123 (Post 484595)
Unsharpen is a filter tool, but it actually DOES sharpen. I forget why they call it unsharpen instead.

I have CS2 so I do filter>sharpen>unsharp mask
I use the all around general good time settings of 85%, radius 1, threshold 4.

Thanks for this Col! I tried it and I think I like it better than what I do. I just use the Smart Sharpen Filter.

momtutu 07-09-2009 08:20 AM

Oh, thank you so much for that action Meghan!! I practiced it with it last night and it worked out great!!

ColleenSwerb 07-09-2009 08:25 AM

No problem Susan :)
I've pretty much only seen the unsharp mask used to get things a touch sharper. If you read a lot of photography stuff, they refer to "defogging" or they defog a picture. That's the same as running the unsharp mask.

lltheo 07-09-2009 09:57 AM

Woot!! Thanks for the action, Meghan!!!

I'm going to sound a bit out of the loop here, but how do you install that action in PSE? I've installed lots of actions for my photos before, but I always put them in the photo effects folder. I can't decide which folder this action needs to go into??

If anyone has a clue, could you hook a sister up??

Thanks, ladies!

Giseli Freitas 07-09-2009 10:26 AM

Girls, I'm here to thank you! This unsharp mask thing totally works great! :)
I'm changing my way to save LO's for web starting today. In fact, I'll apply the filter in all my "for web" LO's I have in my machine. Just b/c it works great and I'll love to see the change in my pages LOL

I use PSP (12) and there's a unsharp mask filter too. I didn't use this until today and what difference it makes! More clear / less pixelated.
I just change the LO to 72 dpi and automatically the size changes to 576x576 and I save. But now I'll apply the unsharp mask filter. SO easy to do!!
You're all so smart! Thanks!


xoxo

Linz 07-09-2009 02:04 PM

600x600. always. even with a zillion layers. low quality sucks, but that's the size my CTs ask for when making ads or using them for store previews. ;)

i've always ran the unsharp mask on my photos (among other photo-editing processes), but not the entire layout. *shrug* i'm happy with them and that's what counts, right? :)

Sue Setiadji 07-09-2009 02:26 PM

I havent read all through this post but wanted to make a mention that a little boost in saturation prevents the colours from dulling on web saves also.

Image>Adjustments>Hue/Saturation and move the Saturation (middle slider) up (to the right) just a smidge - somewhere between +5 and +9 is about all you need
Feel free to experiment - everyone has there own taste!

MelissaL88 07-09-2009 05:28 PM

Cool, Sue! Thanks for that little tip!

The action I have saves the files at 512 - why? I dunno. It's just what it does. I need to update it to 600 so I can be like all the other cool kids around here LOL!


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