casey anthony verdict - not guilty

[KristinCB]

discuss...

I haven't followed the entire case but I have read bits and pieces. TBH I had a hard time because it sickened me.. to not even find her guilty of manslaughter? my freaking goodness.

[amystoffel]

I just posted this same thing on my FB! Not a lot of evidence in the case, but you could still WISH for justice for that sweet baby girl

[Tracyfish]

I hope some of the jurors talk because I would love to hear the reasoning behind the verdicts. It should have at least been manslaughter. She's going to get off with maybe a couple more years in county jail max which is just insane.

[dgreenshield]

There wasn't enough evidence (IMO) to definitively say she did the crime. That said, I believe that there is one person she will answer to in the end.

[aggiefamily]

Why wasn't she charged and convicted of not reporting her child missing? All she got was guilty of lying to the police which really (IMHO) has nothing to do with the murder of a child.

I bet now the prosecutors go after her parents.

I can't wait until Dateline or 20/20 interviews the jurors. Something had to happen in their deliberations. I was fully expecting them to be deadlocked. With 7 women on the jury you would think it would be a guilty verdict.

[Jengerbread88]

I was unsure if she they'd return a guilty verdict on the 1st degree murder, because not a lot of evidence was presented.

But not manslaughter? Not child abuse? Really? THAT I really think she needed to be found guilty of.

Seriously. 31 days her daughter was missing and she didn't say a darn thing!


Here's my thing, though. She's going to be released. People still feel like she got away with this. People think a guilty woman is now out there.
Someone's going to take matters into their own hands. It's not the right thing to do, but I could see it happening. I certainly worry, because even though I feel Casey should have been convicted, now what? They can't have people just following her around to protect her forever now.... but I could see her being in some serious danger. Someone's going to want justice for that little girl.

And furthermore, what's stopping Casey from going, having more kids, and doing the same thing to them? After all, she got away with it once...

[haydensmommy217]

not enough evidence are you serious what mother parties while her child is missing this disgusts me to no end. Then she said that she drowned um i am not sure where she learned her crap but you generally report it to the cops. this all is very sickening. She got away with murdering an innocent girl now shes going to be living it up with all the money shes going to be getting from movie deals book tours and all that crap. I heard awhile ago that shes now pregnant are you serious.

[jessica31876]

they are posting no parking signs where her parents live and on Suburban Drive where they found Kaylee. They have police patrols in the neighborhood checking to see if the people coming in actually live there. So Im guessing it will go on for quite awhile if she is released and kinda makes me wonder where she will go. I dont think she has any friends left and Im not sure her family wants her back.

I am torn...I want to believe in our justice system but on days like this I am sickened by it. I have no doubt she did SOMETHING to her daughter and there is no justice for her daughter

[haydensmommy217]

Originally Posted by Jengerbread88

And furthermore, what's stopping Casey from going, having more kids, and doing the same thing to them? After all, she got away with it once...

Shes already pregnant a few months along i think about 2 months

[jessica31876]

how? by who? shes been in jail

Originally Posted by haydensmommy217

Shes already pregnant a few months along i think about 2 months

[Julie Billingsley]

I really haven't been following this much but it seemed that several people were people of interest. The shadow of doubt seems to have been there. Why didn't the prosecutor wait until they had a rock solid case??

Here in Oregon, a big case has been the Kyron Horman disappearance. Everyone knows the stepmom did it, but the prosecutor hasn't brought charges yet because there isn't a rock solid case yet. I'd love justice to be served, but I understand they need to wait.

[MandaT]

Originally Posted by Julie Billingsley

Here in Oregon, a big case has been the Kyron Horman disappearance. Everyone knows the mom did it, but the prosecutor hasn't brought charges yet because there isn't a rock solid case yet. I'd love justice to be served, but I understand they need to wait.

Step mom right?? I think the bio-mom lives down this way, she's been on our news several times (along with the whole thing really).

I haven't followed any of the C.A. trial, exept when she was first missing. I can't imagine, my child missing for a MONTH and doing absolutely nothing...nothing. I can't even imagine them gone for a minute & not doing something. So, so sad.

[Jengerbread88]

Originally Posted by Julie Billingsley

I really haven't been following this much but it seemed that several people were people of interest. The shadow of doubt seems to have been there. Why didn't the prosecutor wait until they had a rock solid case??

I agree that there was reasonable doubt in terms of the 1st degree murder. However, I don't think there was as much reasonable doubt in terms of the child abuse or manslaughter charges... I think the fact that her daughter was missing for 31 days and she said nothing to anyone kind of falls under "obvious" in terms of child abuse. But, I guess I didn't pay attention to the full trial as well as I should have.

You're right, there should have been a better case presented- from what I heard they were unable to determine time or cause of death before going to trial, which seems a bit absurd to me.

However, I do feel that the evidence presented did make it pretty clear. Obviously it wasn't clear enough for the jury. While I'd love love love to hear what they have to say and what doubt they had in their minds, I highly doubt we'll actually ever hear much from them.

I'm pretty sure now the prosecution will go after the grandparents...

[BrattyMeg]

even if not manslaughter how is it not neglect?? I mean I totally get not convicting somebody if you have an ounce of doubt but not reporting your child missing is a case of neglect IMO

I really have a lot of opinions about it but going to wait for some more posts lol

[Julie Billingsley]

Originally Posted by apphotos

Step mom right?? I think the bio-mom lives down this way, she's been on our news several times (along with the whole thing really).

I haven't followed any of the C.A. trial, exept when she was first missing. I can't imagine, my child missing for a MONTH and doing absolutely nothing...nothing. I can't even imagine them gone for a minute & not doing something. So, so sad.

yes, yes, you are right... it's the stepmom, Terri. I should have differentiated! Kyron's mom Desiree is not guilty of his disappearance. let me edit my first post to say stepmom

[ayaandjudah]

There was reasonable doubt, or rather the prosecution couldn't prove beyond reasonable doubt that she did it. Therefore the jury made the right call.

But there are no winners in this case and my heart breaks for this little girl.

[BrattyMeg]

Jennifer I think she's going to be free on Thursday too. The sentencing on counts of lying are only up to a year in jail max.

[nun69]

all I know is it is truly sad all the way around. If she didn't do it, then why didn't she report her missing? If my kids were missing for 15 mins, out of my sight, I would report them missing immediately. I would love to hear what the jurors have to say. I also have to beleive in the system and that those 12 people made the right decision whether I agree with it or not. This is why we have a justice system, isn't it?

eta: I haven't really followed it, but I did read about it ~and I do believe that she should have been found guilty of neglect since her daughter was missing for 31 days and she never reported it~

[ayaandjudah]

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

even if not manslaughter how is it not neglect?? I mean I totally get not convicting somebody if you have an ounce of doubt but not reporting your child missing is a case of neglect IMO

I really have a lot of opinions about it but going to wait for some more posts lol

Meg, I completely agree, HOWEVER, the defense says they answered that because Anthony knew Caylee was dead. They're saying that since she accidentally drowned that it wasn't neglect to not report her missing.

That said, I'm fairly certain I'd have voted guilty on child abuse and neglect.

[BrattyMeg]

The judge too isn't allowing the release of the jurors names. The jurors declined to be interviewed but the alternates were going to be asked to.

I agree Amanda on the state going after her parents now...or somebody!

[ayaandjudah]

Originally Posted by Julie Billingsley

I really haven't been following this much but it seemed that several people were people of interest. The shadow of doubt seems to have been there. Why didn't the prosecutor wait until they had a rock solid case??

Here in Oregon, a big case has been the Kyron Horman disappearance. Everyone knows the stepmom did it, but the prosecutor hasn't brought charges yet because there isn't a rock solid case yet. I'd love justice to be served, but I understand they need to wait.

Julie, that case makes me sick. it seems so obvious that the stepmom did it yet they can't prove it.

Much as it sickens me I'm glad I live in a place where in order to be convicted of a crime, there needs to be evidence.

[BrattyMeg]

also..Nancy Grace said the jurors haven't had access to tv or media..so it's possible too the public knows more "evidence"(speculation?..public opinion) that wasn't released to the jurors or in court.

[Shawna Clingerman]

Its pretty heartbreaking, and even if she didn't actually commit murder she still did some god awful things wrong! i can't even imagine what is wrong with a woman that makes the choices she did!

Julie, I'm with you on the Kyron case, I want them to have the case tied shut with a pretty bow before they take them anyone to trial because it is god awful to think about someone getting away with murdering a child - It just hurts me to think about it!

[haydensmommy217]

i heard that she was pregnant on one of the news channels

[BrattyMeg]

OT: but on the Kyron case..there hasn't been a body found yet right? I haven't read much about that case but what I did read totally pointed to the stepmom

[Darcy Baldwin]

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

also..Nancy Grace said the jurors haven't had access to tv or media..so it's possible too the public knows more "evidence"(speculation?..public opinion) that wasn't released to the jurors or in court.

That's always true, especially in high-profile cases.

[ayaandjudah]

They haven't found Kyron, have they? That is so very very sad

[deepounds]

I'm astounded & disgusted, truthfully. I understand reasonable doubt & all that, but the operative word is REASONABLE . . . I don't see how anyone with an IQ in the double digits could not see that she was guilty of much more than just "providing false information to law enforcement".

For poor little Caylee's sake, it's good to know at least that there is a much higher court Casey will have to face eventually.

[KristinCB]

ugh and also - the amount of crying/emotion she showed after the verdict was read was more than I saw in any news/clips etc that i saw of the case.. she showed NO sadness at all during the trial right?

And the lawyers and everyone were acting like douches after it was all read.. smiling and laughing.. no one won. a child is DEAD.

[haydensmommy217]

there is something seriously wrong with the USA

[BrattyMeg]

1 more thing..where does she go from here? If they release her on Thursday she has no job, no job prospects (except I'm sure she'll do some paid interviews soon..maybe), and I highly doubt her parents will allow her back in their home after the daily under the bus throwing her law team did.

[jessica31876]

she still has to face the case filed against her by Zaneida Gonzalez in August

[haydensmommy217]

shes probably not going to have to work a day in her life now will all the offers for book deals and movies that are going to come here way i still cant believe this country

[nun69]

Originally Posted by KristinCB

And the lawyers and everyone were acting like douches after it was all read.. smiling and laughing.. no one won. a child is DEAD.

I totally agree with this~and if I had to guess she will have to move away where people don't know her {if that is possible}

[BrattyMeg]

Originally Posted by jessica31876

she still has to face the case filed against her by Zaneida Gonzalez in August

I thought she didn't exist?

**ETA** nevermind...I see that she was a fictitious nanny but is a real person. Also...do you think by naming her Casey was giving the whereabouts of Caylee's body? Looking online at some info now the address on file for Zeneida is right in the area of where the body was found.

[Julie Billingsley]

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

OT: but on the Kyron case..there hasn't been a body found yet right? I haven't read much about that case but what I did read totally pointed to the stepmom

that's right. No body found yet. Kyron has been missing a year. Sorry to bring this offtopic. Kyron's disappearance has caused a little hole in my heart. I didn't know him, but he is from my city. Also, my son Logan is an almost-twin of Kyron... they look so much alike that I use to get stopped a LOT and I've had people write down my license plate number because they thought my son was Kyron. I don't mind.. I'd rather them report it and be wrong than not report it and it could have been Kyron. I can't wait for justice to be served.

[BrattyMeg]

Originally Posted by Julie Billingsley

that's right. No body found yet. Kyron has been missing a year. Sorry to bring this offtopic. Kyron's disappearance has caused a little hole in my heart. I didn't know him, but he is from my city. Also, my son Logan is an almost-twin of Kyron... they look so much alike that I use to get stopped a LOT and I've had people write down my license plate number because they thought my son was Kyron. I don't mind.. I'd rather them report it and be wrong than not report it and it could have been Kyron. I can't wait for justice to be served.

I agree I think he looks like him although Logan looks quite thinner. You are right better to be safe than sorry.

[deepounds]

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

1 more thing..where does she go from here? If they release her on Thursday she has no job, no job prospects (except I'm sure she'll do some paid interviews soon..maybe), and I highly doubt her parents will allow her back in their home after the daily under the bus throwing her law team did.

Unfortunately, she WILL end up making a lot of money from interviews, movie deals, etc. And her face will be plastered everywhere by paparazzi. Just another disgusting fact about the whole thing.

And much as I hate to say it, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if her folks took her back in. Undoubtedly, the defense team told them up front that in order to save their daughter they'd have to use those tactics. Again, disgusting.

[Nettio]

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

1 more thing..where does she go from here? If they release her on Thursday she has no job, no job prospects (except I'm sure she'll do some paid interviews soon..maybe), and I highly doubt her parents will allow her back in their home after the daily under the bus throwing her law team did.

Isn't this true for a lot of people released from jail though? Granted she's more high-profile than most but I doubt it's unusual to get released from jail and not have a home or job to go back to.

The whole thing is just sad. Like Kristin said a child is DEAD. Guilty, not guilty, nothing changes that. I'm not really surprised by the not guilty verdict. I don't buy the defense's "accidental drowning" argument but they did seem like they'd poked some major holes in the prosecution's case with all of the forensic evidence.

In a way, this trial reflects the good and bad of our justice system. Good in that there is a large burden of proof to convict someone. Bad in that like in a case like this, where there may never be enough evidence to convict someone, a murderer could go free.

[ayaandjudah]

Wow Julie....wow. But at least they're doing their civic duty. Without people like that, Elizabeth Smart wouldn't have been found.

[jessica31876]

kinda confusing...there is a Zaneida Gonzalez (not sure how to spell her name). She however does not know Caylee or Casey. Because of the accusations Casey made though she has claimed it has effected her life and so she filed a case in civil court against Casey Anthony. Supposed to start in August....like the 24th or 29th maybe?

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

I thought she didn't exist?

[Jengerbread88]

Originally Posted by KristinCB

ugh and also - the amount of crying/emotion she showed after the verdict was read was more than I saw in any news/clips etc that i saw of the case.. she showed NO sadness at all during the trial right?

And the lawyers and everyone were acting like douches after it was all read.. smiling and laughing.. no one won. a child is DEAD.

Exactly this. Everything you said here is so true. She showed NO emotion during the trial, from what I saw.

And I wanted to slap those lawyers. And with the defense attorney, he sits there and smugly says "When I go home tonight, and my daughter asks what I did today, I can say 'I helped save a life.'" Wow. Heartless jerk. Are you going to tell her that you helped save the life of someone who might have killed someone else, or at the very least, clearly didn't even love her little girl much (I'm sorry, whether you knew she was dead or not, 31 days without even a mention of your daughter is absurd)? Because I think otherwise, you're not really being up front with her.

[jessica31876]

from what Ive seen is that she (Casey Anthony) was at an apartment complex where Zaneida had visted to see about renting an apartment and got that name from being in the office at some point as well. Casey apparently had alot of imaginary people in her life though.

Originally Posted by FlirtatiousBrat

I thought she didn't exist?

**ETA** nevermind...I see that she was a fictitious nanny but is a real person. Also...do you think by naming her Casey was giving the whereabouts of Caylee's body? Looking online at some info now the address on file for Zeneida is right in the area of where the body was found.

[Julie Billingsley]

could they charge the family with conspiracy? I mean the mom or Casey searched for chloroform, the dad was an ex-cop that knew how to cover this up, and Casey herself couldn't keep her story straight. Everyone pointing fingers at everyone else. Sure seems they all knew what happened and worked hard to conspire on a coverup.

[KristinCB]

That is what i was wondering too.. I'm hoping that there will be away to have other charges filed against her or the family so that there will be some justice served.

[Jengerbread88]

Originally Posted by Julie Billingsley

could they charge the family with conspiracy? I mean the mom or Casey searched for chloroform.

The mom said that she was searching for chlorophyll for something with the dog? And that it led her to chloroform. Which sounds... ridiculous to me. It doesn't even sound plausible. But whatever.

And yes, she couldn't keep her story straight. The whole thing seemed like one big coverup. I think conspiracy would be an excellent charge.

[Jengerbread88]

Originally Posted by KristinCB

That is what i was wondering too.. I'm hoping that there will be away to have other charges filed against her or the family so that there will be some justice served.

They can DEFINITELY file other charges against her. They just can't try her for the same charges again.

Even if she publicly stands on the courthouse steps Thursday and says "I did it, I'm guilty, I killed her," she cannot be tried for the same charges again because she's been tried for those once, and the prosecution only has one chance to bring charges against her... it's a double jeopardy thing.

However, they CAN bring other charges against her, if there's evidence to support them and to support an arrest.

[KristinCB]

Originally Posted by Jengerbread88

The mom said that she was searching for chlorophyll for something with the dog? And that it led her to chloroform. Which sounds... ridiculous to me. It doesn't even sound plausible. But whatever.

And yes, she couldn't keep her story straight. The whole thing seemed like one big coverup. I think conspiracy would be an excellent charge.

I am pretty sure it was proven during the trial that the mom couldn't have been the one to do the search on the computer because records showed she was at work during the time it was done..

[BrattyMeg]

Originally Posted by jessica31876

kinda confusing...there is a Zaneida Gonzalez (not sure how to spell her name). She however does not know Caylee or Casey. Because of the accusations Casey made though she has claimed it has effected her life and so she filed a case in civil court against Casey Anthony. Supposed to start in August....like the 24th or 29th maybe?

I read just now it's been moved to Feb 2012

What I'm saying is though that I think she either searched the name or address or something where Caylee's body was and pinpointed it on a person in that same area. Not sure how true it is but it was concluded based on a phone conversation she had with her brother from jail. The address for the Gonzalez family is in the same area where Caylee's body was found.

I'll see if I can find the link I read again

[BrattyMeg]

I saw a comment on twitter...said something about

who would cover up an accident with a murder :0/